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May 28, 2004

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it makes me afraid too. so many times i see the discussion revolve around the nouns and the verbs instead of the nuts and the bolts. i pray they (ec) don't take the easy way out and just remodel the modern church to look a lot cooler and more hip - and stop there, if we don't prioritize the things that were important to jesus what good are we?

"if we don't prioritize the things that were important to jesus what good are we?"

Thoughtful introspection has been steadily making its way into the EC camp -- this is a very good thing.

Well put. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that if we get "who we are" right, "what we're part of" will take care of itself—or more properly, will be taken care of by the Holy Spirit.

I think the whole reason for the emerging of the ec and its reaction against the traditional church is that the tc has lost its focus on transformation and discipleship, servanthood and submission to God, in favor of a faith that doesn't require anything of us. If we get back to a focus on leaving everything to follow the call of Jesus, people will be transformed and the church along with them.

Keep up the good thinking, Chris.

Chris-
well said, these are more and more the reasons I am beginning to be cautious of the label "emerging" or "emergent" I still think that there is good stuff there, but for all the conferences and books and friendships, we still have only touched (if at all) the core issues. The emerging church needs to be more than just pissed off christians and pastors who got burned out in a church somewhere. The 3 issues you specifically mentioned, individualism, materialism, hedonism are alive, strong and growing in the EC, just like their modern counterparts, and they are alive in me too. I am part of that same problem

Significantly more attention needs to be leveled against these kinds of debilitating forces, rather than pursuing our preoccupation with postmodern philosophizing and overeager deconstruction.

Guilty.

Kewl thought Chris! It is the passion of me and Dawn to heal the wounded and sick; call out giftings and put them into active ministry; being the "church" wherever they are.

I've also made it a goal to constantly release people to actively work in their gifting/calling for the better of God's kingdom.

The church has had this habit of "Call, Gather, Feed and Keep". Holding people hostage from knowing and living out their true calling by God; thus keeping the numbers within the fold.

The Apostolic focus which I believe it is a part of the EC would be "Call, Gather, Train and Send". We shepherds need to help people find their gifts, train them, put them into active duty; within the walls or outside of the walls of the church building. Thus releasing them into the full potential that God intended.

Sorry..it's the latest soapbox of mine.

Kewl thought Chris! It is the passion of me and Dawn to heal the wounded and sick; call out giftings and put them into active ministry; being the "church" wherever they are.

I've also made it a goal to constantly release people to actively work in their gifting/calling for the better of God's kingdom.

The church has had this habit of "Call, Gather, Feed and Keep". Holding people hostage from knowing and living out their true calling by God; thus keeping the numbers within the fold.

The Apostolic focus which I believe it is a part of the EC would be "Call, Gather, Train and Send". We shepherds need to help people find their gifts, train them, put them into active duty; within the walls or outside of the walls of the church building. Thus releasing them into the full potential that God intended.

If we don't assist in finding peoples' giftings and callings and "release" them; we are holding them hostage. Sometimes people have a gifting that we see and affirm; yet they might have a bigger calling on their life and we may not know it. What kind of shepherds are we? We pastors, shepherds and leaders need to repent of this.

Sorry..it's the latest soapbox of mine.

I'd agree totally - but I'm interesedt to know how you are defining 'apostolic'. I think its in danger of going the route of 'missional' and being one of the latest buzz words that means whatever we want it to!

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